From popopot at googlemail.com  Sun Mar  4 14:48:39 2007
From: popopot at googlemail.com (Thor Asgard)
Date: Sun Mar  4 14:48:45 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] HID cards
Message-ID: <9153600c0703040648r1f3a9f3awcc9184095b9f139b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Is it possible to read and clone HID cards with RFID dump? I have tried to
read a HID card but nothing/errors come up. Am I doing something wrong? I
recently found this article:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/02/26/HNblackhatrfid_1.html so I know
its now possible. Is it something that could be incorporated into RFID dump?
I have a spare card if you need a sample for analysis.

Thank you.
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From ULampe at legic.com  Sun Mar  4 15:01:35 2007
From: ULampe at legic.com (Urs Lampe)
Date: Sun Mar  4 15:01:41 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] Urs A. Lampe of LEGIC Identsystems Ltd. is out of office.
Message-ID: <OFBD5A3CA7.31291F24-ONC1257294.00528B17-C1257294.00528B17@dom01.kaba.grp>


Ich werde ab  02.03.2007 nicht im B?ro sein. Ich kehre zur?ck am
12.03.2007.

Thank you for your message. Please note that I will be out of of office
until March 12 and have irregular access to email. For urgent matters
please contact my assistant Karin Antonis, Tel. +41 44 933 64 18,
fmeier@legic.com.


From mailings at julianmoritz.de  Mon Mar  5 21:06:53 2007
From: mailings at julianmoritz.de (Julian Moritz)
Date: Mon Mar  5 21:06:58 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] Some questions about a reader/writer
Message-ID: <45EC866D.2040603@julianmoritz.de>

Hello there,

     I've met Meike Reichle this weekend at the linuxdays in chemnitz. 
We talked about rfid and security, and she inspired me to buy a rfid 
card reader/writer.

She told me there are some reader available for about 150 ?. I am a 
student so I don't want to buy one of yours, because thats much money 
for me; additionally I have some questions:

I do know that the cards I want to read/write are some wich have 13.56 
MHz, but I don't know the difference between ISO 15693 and 14443. If 
there is an important difference, please tell me!

You're FAQ are telling me:

<snip>
You will find a list of working reader incl. the working reader 
firmware, as well the configuration of the reader parameter to use it 
with RFDump.
</snap>

Does that mean: If I would NOT buy a reader from your list, I will have 
to change the firmware and/or configure it in order to make it work with 
rfdump? Furthermore: Of course you want to sell some stuff, but is it 
really a torture to do it by myself? My time is neat, so I would prefer 
to pay 217 ? instead of 150 ? and saving a few weeks of my life.

So, to come to an end: Pleeease tell me a card reader/writer wich is

a) not very expensive (more than 200 ?)
b) achievable over ebay germany or an internet pc seller.
c) easy to run with rfdump and some writing tools (Meike told me, rfdump 
does only read out rfid cards but does not write on them).
d) USB support would be nice to run it with my laptop.

Thanks for your time and kind regards
Julian

P.S.: Ich habe bisher noch keine E-Mail dieser Liste erhalten, daher 
habe ich es einfach mal auf englisch probiert. Ich schreibe aber auch 
gerne auf deutsch, falls dies die pr?ferierte Sprache sein sollte.




From l.grunwald at dn-systems.de  Wed Mar  7 09:20:32 2007
From: l.grunwald at dn-systems.de (Lukas Grunwald)
Date: Wed Mar  7 10:51:44 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] RFDUMP using ACG CF Cards
In-Reply-To: <a26f59cb0702191142o4638c305mdfa2ecf238cef990@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a26f59cb0702191142o4638c305mdfa2ecf238cef990@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45EE83E0.7000309@dn-systems.de>

Jason Kratzer wrote:
> I just purchased two ACG CF cards to be used with RFDUMP (the ACG 
> Multi ISO and the ACG LF Multi Tag).  My problem is that both are CF 
> cards and I am having a difficult time getting them to run either in 
> Linux or via the live image inside of vmware.  I am using a CF to USB 
> converter in order to get the devices to work on my desktop, however 
> the dmesg states that the devices are being discovered as sd devices.
This is not supported, the CF Card is a PCMCIA / CardBus Card and you 
can not run it with a flashreader, you need a PCMCIA Yenta Socket. The 
socket is a sort or PCI card, this protocol is not supported via converter.

>   I understand that this is most likely due to my CF to USB convertor, 
> but I was wondering if anyone had any experience using these CF cards 
> on PC's. 
Buy a PCMCIA / CF-Card Bridge and use a PCMCIA to CF adapter , and it 
will work, or use a Notebook with an adapter,-)
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jason
>

-- 
Gruss
    Lukas Grunwald aka REG lg1
    


From l.grunwald at dn-systems.de  Wed Mar  7 09:21:57 2007
From: l.grunwald at dn-systems.de (Lukas Grunwald)
Date: Wed Mar  7 10:53:07 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] HID cards
In-Reply-To: <9153600c0703040648r1f3a9f3awcc9184095b9f139b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9153600c0703040648r1f3a9f3awcc9184095b9f139b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45EE8435.8030005@dn-systems.de>

Thor Asgard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to read and clone HID cards with RFID dump? I have 
> tried to read a HID card but nothing/errors come up. Am I doing 
> something wrong? I recently found this article: 
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/02/26/HNblackhatrfid_1.html so I 
> know its now possible. Is it something that could be incorporated into 
> RFID dump? I have a spare card if you need a sample for analysis.
Not seen not checked .-) Just feel free and send us a sample it is a ISO 
14443 Card, isn?t it ?
>
> Thank you.


-- 
Gruss
    Lukas Grunwald aka REG lg1
    



From l.grunwald at dn-systems.de  Wed Mar  7 09:41:33 2007
From: l.grunwald at dn-systems.de (Lukas Grunwald)
Date: Wed Mar  7 11:12:45 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] Some questions about a reader/writer
In-Reply-To: <45EC866D.2040603@julianmoritz.de>
References: <45EC866D.2040603@julianmoritz.de>
Message-ID: <45EE88CD.1040808@dn-systems.de>

Hi,

Julian Moritz wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I do know that the cards I want to read/write are some wich have 13.56 
> MHz, but I don't know the difference between ISO 15693 and 14443. 
There is a nice book out RFID Handbook from Klaus Finkenzeller, this 
should help you on this topic.

> You're FAQ are telling me:
>
> <snip>
> You will find a list of working reader incl. the working reader 
> firmware, as well the configuration of the reader parameter to use it 
> with RFDump.
> </snap>
>
> Does that mean: If I would NOT buy a reader from your list, I will 
> have to change the firmware and/or configure it in order to make it 
> work with rfdump? 
Jeep, it work and all is documented, but sometimes you need to get a 
working firmware, and fix the parameter.
The complexity makes it sometime for the user to a nightmare to bring 
the reader module back to work with RFDump.

Of course you have the source, and any new 3rd party reader with doc 
that works with it is welcome ,-)

> So, to come to an end: Pleeease tell me a card reader/writer wich is
>
> a) not very expensive (more than 200 ?)
> b) achievable over ebay germany or an internet pc seller.
> c) easy to run with rfdump and some writing tools (Meike told me, 
> rfdump does only read out rfid cards but does not write on them).
> d) USB support would be nice to run it with my laptop.
No way, you can buy modules for 50? - 80? but this modules have a RS 484 
Interface and no antenna and need an amplifier as well an external port 
supply.
The nice think of the ACG modules is, pretty easy to use, ASCII Protocol 
and not BIT NIBBLEING, integrated antenna and power from the USB / CF Port.
We don?t wont to waste time with a support nightmare, if you don?t use a 
reader from us, no support from this list, but your patch is welcome as 
well ;-)
>
> Thanks for your time and kind regards
> Julian

-- 
Gruss
    Lukas Grunwald aka REG lg1
    



From l.grunwald at dn-systems.de  Tue Mar 13 17:35:28 2007
From: l.grunwald at dn-systems.de (Lukas Grunwald)
Date: Tue Mar 13 20:02:08 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] RFDump @ CeBIT 2007
In-Reply-To: <45EE88CD.1040808@dn-systems.de>
References: <45EC866D.2040603@julianmoritz.de> <45EE88CD.1040808@dn-systems.de>
Message-ID: <45F6E0E0.706@dn-systems.de>

Hi,

I am on the way to Hannover, if someone is interested to hear my talk 
@heise, here is the link:

http://www.ix-konferenz.de/programm.php?konferenzid=17&st=Programm

The slides will be in English, the talk in German ,-] Looking forward to 
see you guys if you are at the CeBIT.

-- 
Regards
    Lukas 


From Dennis.Elliott at ngc.com  Wed Mar 14 10:04:54 2007
From: Dennis.Elliott at ngc.com (Elliott, Dennis J.)
Date: Wed Mar 14 10:05:31 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] Power Point Slides
Message-ID: <973411582584714AB0D1B4876826229D853BF2@xmbv3801>

Lucus:

Is it possible to get a copy of you Power Point slides that you
presented at @heise.

Thanks in advance

Dennis
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From niedbalski at gmail.com  Thu Mar 15 18:54:24 2007
From: niedbalski at gmail.com (jorge niedbalski)
Date: Thu Mar 15 18:54:30 2007
Subject: [Rfdump] =?windows-1252?q?SDiD=99_1010?=
Message-ID: <c9006e6f0703151154r1bbae383l31f4207e44428981@mail.gmail.com>

Can i use this as RFID reader to dump the data with rfdump?


http://www.wdi.ca/products.shtml
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