From stefan.kelm at secorvo.de Wed Jan 3 13:14:05 2007 From: stefan.kelm at secorvo.de (Stefan Kelm) Date: Wed Jan 3 13:32:58 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] com port In-Reply-To: <459B941A.2080203@secorvo.de> References: <459B941A.2080203@secorvo.de> Message-ID: <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> Hi, I've stumbled over the very same problems as Denis: initially the ACG reader (ACG DualISO USB) worked fine both within the VM live image as well as with the Windows tools as provided by ACG (e.g., ReaderUtility.exe). Now, I'm no longer able to connect to the reader using RFDump v1.4. Even using a plain SUSE 10.1 workstation I can't connect ("reset resulted in nothing") at all. ReaderUtility.exe under Windows still works fine, though. Would it be possible that the firmware somehow got corrupted (how would I tell?) or is RFDdump unstable as of yet? Cheers, Stefan. > Hi, > > Windows uses a FIFO sometimes there is some noise inside this FIFO, so: > > 0. Use Linux, you got native RFDUMP support, out of the box Debian > packets ... etc... if you will wanna use Windows follow up. > 1. Check if the com-port is connected. > 2. Check the baud-rate of the port. > 3. Check you got a access denied, you have a windows COM-problem, if the > virtual-device can??t be connected, use the hardware-manager to fix this, > reinstall driver, windows etc .. > 4. If you can see the driver in the hardware-manager, try to connect it > with the windows. > 5. If you have a connection you can use minicom on the image to test the > connection, send a "v" to the reader. > 6. Check if other software take the COM-port, like the ACG PCSC driver, > this can block it. > 7. Reuse the same USB / COM Port, windows likes to install new com-ports > if you use different USB ports, the Hardware-Manager can fix this. > 8. Keep in mind, this is a professional RFID Security, RFDUMP Mailing > list, we will NOT FIX YOUR WINDOWS ! > > Any one like to write a FAQ out of this email ? > > > Denis * wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> i want to use the live Image of RFdump from the RFdump page, hosted on > a XP system. The virt. mach. is from the link on your site. >> The config file for the guest system configures the com-port in this way: >> >> serial0.present = "TRUE" >> serial0.fileName = "COM4" >> >> And under windows the acg-reader is set to COM4 - so, it shut be > works. But if i start the live image, it comes the error: "reset > resulted in nothing followed" by the Messagebox: "Could not reset the > RFID reader". I can remember, when i started the system the first time - > everything was ok and the program was working very well. But i haven??t > changed everything and now it isn??t working. >> With the original software for the reader, the reader works and if i > first open the com-port with the original software (and don??t close it) > and try to start then the vm - it comes the error: >> "serial0: Unable to open the "COM4" serial port: Zugriff verweigert. > Virtual device serial0 will start disconnected". >> I hope you can help me whit my problem. >> Thanks for your help in advance >> >> Denis -------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kelm Security Consultant Secorvo Security Consulting GmbH Ettlinger Strasse 12-14, D-76137 Karlsruhe Tel. +49 721 255171-304, Fax +49 721 255171-100 stefan.kelm@secorvo.de, http://www.secorvo.de/ ------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprint 87AE E858 CCBC C3A2 E633 D139 B0D9 212B From stefan.kelm at secorvo.de Wed Jan 3 13:16:48 2007 From: stefan.kelm at secorvo.de (Stefan Kelm) Date: Wed Jan 3 13:49:38 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] OpenPCD Message-ID: <459BACC0.4090603@secorvo.de> List, has anyone checked the hardware at http://www.openpcd.org/? Would RFDump be able to support this reader? Cheers, Stefan. -------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kelm Security Consultant Secorvo Security Consulting GmbH Ettlinger Strasse 12-14, D-76137 Karlsruhe Tel. +49 721 255171-304, Fax +49 721 255171-100 stefan.kelm@secorvo.de, http://www.secorvo.de/ ------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprint 87AE E858 CCBC C3A2 E633 D139 B0D9 212B From l.grunwald at dn-systems.de Wed Jan 3 15:20:41 2007 From: l.grunwald at dn-systems.de (Lukas Grunwald) Date: Wed Jan 3 15:20:51 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] com port In-Reply-To: <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> References: <459B941A.2080203@secorvo.de> <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> Message-ID: <459BC9C9.5060400@dn-systems.de> Hi, you can try to start the VM first, then connect the reader, the actual VM contains a USB-Driver for the reader, so you should get /dev/ttyUSB0. Change the RFDUMP Port to the new USB Port, check if it works with dmesg. Be sure the BPS rate is 9600 and the protocol is ASCII not binary. Stefan Kelm wrote: > Hi, > > I've stumbled over the very same problems as Denis: initially the ACG > reader (ACG DualISO USB) worked fine both within the VM live image > as well as with the Windows tools as provided by ACG > (e.g., ReaderUtility.exe). > > Now, I'm no longer able to connect to the reader using RFDump v1.4. Even > using a plain SUSE 10.1 workstation I can't connect ("reset resulted in > nothing") at all. ReaderUtility.exe under Windows still works fine, > though. > > Would it be possible that the firmware somehow got corrupted (how would > I tell?) or is RFDdump unstable as of yet? > > Cheers, > > Stefan. > > -- Gruss Lukas Grunwald aka REG lg1 From stefan.kelm at secorvo.de Wed Jan 3 16:49:05 2007 From: stefan.kelm at secorvo.de (Stefan Kelm) Date: Wed Jan 3 16:49:49 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] com port In-Reply-To: <459BC9C9.5060400@dn-systems.de> References: <459B941A.2080203@secorvo.de> <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> <459BC9C9.5060400@dn-systems.de> Message-ID: <459BDE81.4080404@secorvo.de> Hi Lukas, thanks for the prompt reply. > you can try to start the VM first, then connect the reader, the actual > VM contains a USB-Driver for the reader, so you should get /dev/ttyUSB0. > Change the RFDUMP Port to the new USB Port, check if it works with dmesg. Indeed, I do get this port but using rfdump -p /dev/ttyUSB0 still leads to "Could not reset RFID reader". > Be sure the BPS rate is 9600 and the protocol is ASCII not binary. Ack. Still, that doesn't explain the problems I have with the reader connected to my Linux workstation. Cheers, Stefan. -------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kelm Security Consultant Secorvo Security Consulting GmbH Ettlinger Strasse 12-14, D-76137 Karlsruhe Tel. +49 721 255171-304, Fax +49 721 255171-100 stefan.kelm@secorvo.de, http://www.secorvo.de/ ------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprint 87AE E858 CCBC C3A2 E633 D139 B0D9 212B From stefan.kelm at secorvo.de Fri Jan 5 10:26:36 2007 From: stefan.kelm at secorvo.de (Stefan Kelm) Date: Fri Jan 5 10:27:21 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] com port In-Reply-To: <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> References: <459B941A.2080203@secorvo.de> <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> Message-ID: <459E27DC.4090004@secorvo.de> List, > Would it be possible that the firmware somehow got corrupted (how would > I tell?) or is RFDdump unstable as of yet? Is there any way to find out whether or not the firmware on the ACG reader has been corrupted? Even though I tried a few hints (thanks, Denis!) I still cannot connect to the reader using RFDump, neither through the VM image nor using my Linux workstation. ACG's windows tools work fine, though. Hints anyone? Thanks! Stefan. -------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kelm Security Consultant Secorvo Security Consulting GmbH Ettlinger Strasse 12-14, D-76137 Karlsruhe Tel. +49 721 255171-304, Fax +49 721 255171-100 stefan.kelm@secorvo.de, http://www.secorvo.de/ ------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprint 87AE E858 CCBC C3A2 E633 D139 B0D9 212B From doj at cubic.org Fri Jan 5 10:47:34 2007 From: doj at cubic.org (Dirk Jagdmann) Date: Fri Jan 5 10:48:23 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] com port In-Reply-To: <459E27DC.4090004@secorvo.de> References: <459B941A.2080203@secorvo.de> <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> <459E27DC.4090004@secorvo.de> Message-ID: <459E2CC6.60500@cubic.org> Hello Stefan, you can test the ACG Readers with a standard (serial) terminal program like minicom or the barebone http://www.lassitu.de/software/sc/ . Then you should check if the reader responds to the setting of 9600 8N1. If the reader is in ASCII mode you can "talk" to the device by typing some simple commands like: v - print Firmware version s - select/activate a TAG and print it Header If the device is already in continuous read mode you can stop that with ".". -- ---> Dirk Jagdmann ^ doj / cubic ----> http://cubic.org/~doj -----> http://llg.cubic.org From stefan.kelm at secorvo.de Fri Jan 5 15:17:28 2007 From: stefan.kelm at secorvo.de (Stefan Kelm) Date: Fri Jan 5 15:18:16 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] com port In-Reply-To: <459E2CC6.60500@cubic.org> References: <459B941A.2080203@secorvo.de> <459BAC1D.6060406@secorvo.de> <459E27DC.4090004@secorvo.de> <459E2CC6.60500@cubic.org> Message-ID: <459E6C08.6070902@secorvo.de> Hi Dirk, > you can test the ACG Readers with a standard (serial) terminal program > like minicom or the barebone http://www.lassitu.de/software/sc/ . Thanks for your reply. In the meantime I was able to have my problem resolved, thanks to Lukas! I incidentally changed some reader settings through ACG's ReaderUtility.exe tool. Now everything's back to normal. Cheers, Stefan. -------------------------------------------------------- T.I.S.P. - Lassen Sie Ihre Qualifikation zertifizieren 05.-10.03.2007 - http://www.secorvo.de/college/tisp/ -------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kelm Security Consultant Secorvo Security Consulting GmbH Ettlinger Strasse 12-14, D-76137 Karlsruhe Tel. +49 721 255171-304, Fax +49 721 255171-100 stefan.kelm@secorvo.de, http://www.secorvo.de/ ------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprint 87AE E858 CCBC C3A2 E633 D139 B0D9 212B From terje at waste.org Fri Jan 5 16:04:49 2007 From: terje at waste.org (Terje Sannum) Date: Fri Jan 5 16:04:54 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] OpenPCD In-Reply-To: <459BACC0.4090603@secorvo.de> References: <459BACC0.4090603@secorvo.de> Message-ID: I don't know about that reader, but I have the APSX RW-310 and find that the communication with that reader is quite different from what is implemented in rfdump. I looked into the code, and the way it's organized I didn't find an easy way to implement support for my reader. I'm quite new to rfid, but would be happy to help with implementing support for different reader protocols and try to get it work with RW-310. -Terje On 1/3/07, Stefan Kelm wrote: > > List, > > has anyone checked the hardware at http://www.openpcd.org/? > Would RFDump be able to support this reader? > > Cheers, > > Stefan. > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Stefan Kelm > Security Consultant > > Secorvo Security Consulting GmbH > Ettlinger Strasse 12-14, D-76137 Karlsruhe > > Tel. +49 721 255171-304, Fax +49 721 255171-100 > stefan.kelm@secorvo.de, http://www.secorvo.de/ > ------------------------------------------------------- > PGP Fingerprint 87AE E858 CCBC C3A2 E633 D139 B0D9 212B > > > _______________________________________________ > Rfdump mailing list > Rfdump@lists.dn-systems.net > http://lists.dn-systems.net/mailman/listinfo/rfdump > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.dn-systems.net/pipermail/rfdump/attachments/20070105/5f819d53/attachment.html From sunshine1709 at web.de Mon Jan 8 22:46:33 2007 From: sunshine1709 at web.de (Denis *) Date: Mon Jan 8 22:47:09 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] Communication error with tag Message-ID: <2072025360@web.de> Hi all, After I was able to open the COM-port in the VM and RFDump is able the reset the RFID-reader, I want try to readout a tag. RFDump identificated the tag (Mifare (ISO 14443 Type A)), but in the window in background I could read ?could not read page 00 could not read all pages? After starting the function ?Crack Key A? or also ?Crack Key B? two windows were opened. Once the normal to show the key-search and the second shows a message ?Communication error with tag?. What did I wrong and how can I make the communication possible? I hope you can help me. Cheers Denis ______________________________________________________________________ XXL-Speicher, PC-Virenschutz, Spartarife & mehr: Nur im WEB.DE Club! Jetzt gratis testen! http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021130 From s.zehe at visukom.net Thu Jan 11 13:05:30 2007 From: s.zehe at visukom.net (Stefan Zehe) Date: Thu Jan 11 13:06:10 2007 Subject: [Rfdump] Communication error with tag Message-ID: <0001DF40.45A6442A@192.168.115.111> Hi, I have the same problem, i always get communication error with tag when i try to crack a key. Is your tag empty and open or is it a used tag? Gru?, Stefan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Rfdump] Communication error with tag (08-Jan-2007 23:49) From: Denis * To: s.zehe@visukom.net > Hi all, > > After I was able to open the COM-port in the VM and RFDump is able the > reset the RFID-reader, I want try to readout a tag. RFDump identificated > the tag > (Mifare (ISO 14443 Type A)), but in the window in background I could read > > ?could not read page 00 > could not read all pages? > > After starting the function ?Crack Key A? or also ?Crack Key B? two windows > were opened. Once the normal to show the key-search and the second shows a > message ?Communication error with tag?. > What did I wrong and how can I make the communication possible? > I hope you can help me. > > Cheers Denis > > ______________________________________________________________________ > XXL-Speicher, PC-Virenschutz, Spartarife & mehr: Nur im WEB.DE Club! > Jetzt gratis testen! http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021130 > > > _______________________________________________ > Rfdump mailing list > Rfdump@lists.dn-systems.net > http://lists.dn-systems.net/mailman/listinfo/rfdump > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- VisuKom Deutschland GmbH Stefan Zehe W?rzburger Str. 26 96135 Stegaurach / Bamberg Germany Tel.: +49(0)951 99390.54 Fax : +49(0)951 99390.20 mailto:s.zehe@visukom.net www.visukom.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- VisuKom unterst?tzt www.projekt-hope.de ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Diese E-Mail enth?lt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich gesch?tzte Informationen. 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